I Buff Orp cockerel or 2? Opinions on pics please!

[Lorna Doone]

Hi, haven't posted for a while, but in the Autumn I got 2 more hens to accompany my 2 Copper Black Maran girls. As a bit of central heating for the coop for winter I got 2 gorgeous baby buff Orpingtons. They are now around 36/37 weeks old and beautiful - the sweetest natures too, very calm. Anyway, they have grown hu-uge, no eggs yet, but i put that diwb to the weather. But I was concerned that one has fair sized head gear, very red and proud too, and slightly curved tail feathers. Well my fears were right - we had a strangled sounding attempt at several cockadoodledoos last 2 days at sunrise. The breeder says she will swap him, phew! However I'm unsure about the 2nd one - I THINK it's a hen - tail feathers seem to sit high and pointy, not droop, is head slightly rounder do you think? Smaller head gear? Still I eggs though. Anyway, I have taken several photos - can you tell me what you think?

cockerel is on the right on this one:




This is the possible hen otherway round. Hen tail feathers?


Compared to cockerel's:



Best of buddies. The cockerel (front) likes to bury his head underneath the other one:

[Totally Scrambled]

We've had a good look and are almost certain both are boys.
The neck and saddle feathers looked pointed to us which only happens with boys.
Dom & Ali

[Lorna Doone]

Oh crumbs! Realised my typo - I meant 0 eggs, not I eggs!

Thanks for having a look - I appreciate everyone's opinion on it.

[kitla]

I'd guess boys too. Orpy hens usually have smaller combs too. They're a hard breed to s.ex when they're young.

[sazchops]

Yep, I had a lovely black girl, Marmite. Sadly lost her last year but she didn't have such a big comb and wattles.
They look like lovely boys though.

[Lorna Doone]

Oh dear. It seems to be the general opinion. Hmm. They are beautiful boys - sadly ones I can't keep though

[kitla]

what a shame, but as they're friendly they'd be good as family garden chooks.
My son's first chicken was an orpy that turned out to be a boy, he loved it & cuddled
it every day. I hope you can find them homes.